The cup base is typically used for paper patched rifle bullets. Years ago i did some of that paper patching for a 3006 spfld according to the harris developments. In the movie the shooter is paper patching really the answer to his question. Looking at some of the original paper patched bullets in my cartridge collection i noticed they used tallow or bees wax to do.
Yesteray,i finally got to the range to start developement of a paper patched bullet load for whitetails. But how does one get them small enough to paperpatch. The forums at enjoying fine old rifles and good friends one shot at a time. Does anybody out there reload with there own paper patch bullets.
Its funny there is only 1 view on this post, since ive only seen a handful of references for paper patched bullets in this cartridge, but i guess there probably isnt that much interest in this old reloading art so oh well. New paper patch approach by ed wosika linkedin slideshare. Grease groove bullets have been the most accurate type so far. Most of the pistol bullets and select rifle bullets are made with our heat treated wheel weight htw alloy. Here are the benefits of shooting paper patched bullets in your inline. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison provides a few rules for the shooter using a. I also did some hunting rifle paper patching very successfully with my 358 win see other 35 cal thread. After hammering out the bullet, i tried moistening the bullets with felix lube, and sizing was easy after that. For the most part i dry wrap and use a curved patch because my bullets are tapered. Harrison and the staff at the american rifleman worked with paperpatched bullets in the. Is paper patching real for making bullets untraceable. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets. The bullets must be cast under size enough to allow for the paper, and a slight hollow in the base to pack the paper helps.
Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target. Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. May 17, 2016 myself, i prefer paper patched bullets for three reasons. This series will dive into some keep facts in getting a paper patch boolit to shoot. Most shooters, given quality ppbs and proper loading techniques. And even paper patched some bullets for my 375 hh improved to shoot deer with. Chase patches have been more accurate than wrapped paper patched bullets for me. Why did they paper patch bullets in the movie shooter. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer fit, tailored to a particular firearm. Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. Paper patched bullets a blast from the past sporting shooters. Its funny there is only 1 view on this post, since ive only seen a handful of references for paper patched bullets in this cartridge, but i guess there probably isnt that much interest in this old reloading art so. I still here, just having computer trouble at home and family reunion. In that case, i use paper patched bullets and enjoy them.
I am wondering if i can use one of the heavier, highertech 308 diameter bullets like a 180 tsx in a bore that is slightly larger. I felt that it was the perfect size combination for bore size paper patch bullets. Working with lubricated bullets is messy in my experience. Can lead bullets be pushed to faster velocity by wrapping them in paper. The bore remained clean as a whistle and i remember being amazed. It had turned sideways at some point and was about 58. Sep 26, 2009 incorrect, if you listen they paper patched the cheytac. Oct 22, 2008 the paper does not require lubrication in the bore but it will require some to seat the bullet without tearing the paper and it helps to keep the edge of the paper tearing or trying to unravel in the finished cartridge. Reloading 50 rounds of 45 acp on a single stage press duration. This catalog is a record of molds ive made, and posted for reference. Looking for parashooter and others to comment on my plan for paper patched 1889 bullets.
On half the bullets, i installed a gas check, while the other half did without. Ive checked this two ways, the slug and gage pin method. The art of paper patching, 3006 series introduction youtube. It has been my experience, however, that most of the. You can easily shoot all of these bullets to 1500 fps without problem. Paper patched bullets a blast from the past sporting. It takes some time and effort to get it figured out for a specific rifle, but the results are exemplary. Be aware that due to their custom nature, many of these bullets are designed for a specific purpose or firearm, and wont necessarily fit or feed as drawn in all guns of that caliber. The below photo shows a patched bullet sitting atop the swage rod.
Personally, i would only paper patch a modern smokless rifle bullet as a last resort. Great book too for a wealth of info on cast lead bullets. Nov 19, 2014 new paper patch approach by ed wosika. Accurate bpcr paper patch bullets mississippi gun owners. Bullets recovered from berms were similar lots of deformation with little weight loss. If youre a diehard paperpatched bullet shooter, youre undoubtedly familiar with paul matthews. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paper patched conical bullets. Harrisons 30 caliber paper patched bullets cast bullet forum. I prefer to use paper patched bullets simply because they are easier to handle. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load. Can you paper patch a jacketed bullet and maintain accuracy. Ive used real black powder with paper patched bullets in both sharps and rolling block rifles. You can certainly use it to push paper patched lead or maybe a gas checked lead bullet in. Ive shot chase patches in my muzzle loaders and my 4050 ballard.
This for you old or ancient guys paper patched bullets. Suggest you check the castboolit site on paper patching for more info. The bullets im actually interested in paperpatching would be for the. The paper does not require lubrication in the bore but it will require some to seat the bullet without tearing the paper and it helps to keep the edge of the paper tearing or trying to unravel in. Lowspeed heavy bullet expansion the view from north. Paper patch boolits offer great advantages for us casters. Paper patched bullets were used in some early cartridges, though i dont fully understand why. In case you didnt know paper patched bullets allow you to shoot lead projectiles close to the speed of a jacketed bullet. We describe another method to economically and simply custom fit the bullet to your rifle bore to make your military surplus rifle shoot. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles.
One of the more interesting aspects of the article was the part. Brent danielson has won the long range match there a number of times. In the movie the shooter is paper patching really the answer to his. A beginners guide to loading and shooting paper patched bullets for early black powder cartridge rifles. In fact i may be the only one in the world shooting paper patched bullets from a.
There is one fellow who shoots yds with his black powser 45 cal rifle and puts them all in the the black. Those bullets didnt shoot well and i gave up on bore size bullets. It works well if you can find a buddy that still enjoys casting enough to make a run of soft cast bullets for you to paper patch. The usual load for paper patch is the listed starting load for jacketed bullets, with slower powder being preferable.
Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. Patching with teflon tape was reading an article about paper patched bullets when i stumbled on an article about useing teflon tape instead. You might as well fire a bullet from the first gun, then collect it and use it to make a. Dec 28, 2005 i felt that it was the perfect size combination for bore size paper patch bullets. Now, i my interest in cast bullets is rekindled, mostly for bpcr, but also would like to. Sizing paperpatched bullets for smokeless powder load data. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison. The paper patch needs to be wide enough to cover the length of. Never tried breech seating chase patches in the ballard because the throat is not tapered. This last pic is of a 100yd five shot group from a 224 cal rifle. By the way, ive also used those paper patched bullets over 46 grs of 4895 in my garand with no leading and full function.
Paper patched bullets the curio and relic firearms forum. Above 16501700 fps a patched conical of 300 grains. I use a grease cookie of the same mix of bw and vas. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead bullets and the papers that works best. Most cast bullets are made of lead alloyed with tin and antimony. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data.
Paper patched jacketed bullets in use with a very low powder load, a reason for the terrible accuracy, a proper load for cast bullets should have been used, even low loads for jacketed bullets can be used. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. Cb shooter since the early 1980s, searching through the mysteries of paper patched cast bullets ppcbs, as applied to. How to make your paper patched boolits 3006 series duration. A variation on the paper patch bullet is the teflon taped bullet. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. Now a black powder cartridge rifle is a horse of a different color. The bullets must be cast under size enough to allow for the paper, and a slight. It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks with little or no personal experience with ppbs. Enter your name, address, and billing information for prompt shipment.
It works well if you can find a buddy that still enjoys casting enough to make a run of soft cast bullets. Harrison published his findings in the american rifleman and the nras compilation tome. Years ago i read an article in one of the hollywood glossies about paper patching jacketed bullets. His delightfully informative book on the subject, the paper jacket, is perhaps the best resource for a reloader interested in utilizing paperpatched bullets with smokeless powder. A cast bullet is made by allowing molten metal to solidify in a mold. Jun 12, 2009 1903a3 rifle 1,000 yards 12inch target w paper patched castlead bullets. I dont, i glue the overhanging corner and crimp the overhang over. I melt bees wax and add olive oil until its just about as soft as bar soap when cool. Theres not a whole lot of folks shooting paper patched bullets so its difficult to compare notes with someone else. Article by ross seyfried, who is one of my favorites. Brent danielson has won the long range match there a number of times with paper patched. The accuracy issue needs some work but it really is a doable proposition. I use ordinary printer paper but many use lined note pad paper which is thinner. When you have a clean rag and time to wipe your hands between shots they work fine.
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